Tallboy Carbon / XC 29er - 100mm Travel
- Frame Only Fox Float CTD : £2,499
- Complete Bikes From : £3,999
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- Available Shock Upgrades
Fox Float CTD Adjust Kashima (+ £220.00)
The Tallboy carbon has garnered an almost obscene amount of media praise since its introduction. It has been chosen as Bike Of The Year by magazines and websites around the globe, and has excelled at everything from endurance racing to railing some of the sketchier trails this world has to offer.
Frame construction consists of our proprietary one piece carbon layup and our proven VPP® suspension, yielding a frame and shock weight of five pounds that puts the Tallboy at the lightest end of the class, while at the same time offering stiffness, strength and suspension performance that cannot be rivaled.
- 29" wheels
- Proprietary carbon fiber construction
- VPP® suspension
- 100mm travel
- 142*12 rear axle
- Grease ports, angular contact bearings
- Frame weight with RP23 Air rear shock - Approx 5.3lbs
- Shock Setup (pdf)
What MTB 2011 Bike of The Year
Bicycling 2011 Editors Choice logo
"Overall winner - best 29er full suss"
- Mountain Biking UK: Super Bike
- What Mountain Bike: Bike of the Year 2011
- What Mountain Bike: Bike of the Year 2010
- Singletrack World (pdf)
- Shred Mag - issue 53
- Bike Magic - Tallboy First Impressions
|Frame Size||Top Tube Length*||Seat Tube Length||Head Tube Angle||Seat Tube Angle||BB Height||Wheelbase||Head Tube Length||Chainstay Length||Standover Height||Reach||Stack|
* Effective top tube
** Seat Tube length measured from center of BB to top of seat tube
All upgrade prices are relative to the standard component price.
note: weights are approximate
Can I mount a chainguide on my Tallboy?
Yes, the Tallboy Carbon will accept most bb mount guides. We've had good success with the following:
MRP Lopes (med angle)
MRP Mini G SL (med angle)
E13 LG1 TR.
For a more XC oriented bike, try a top-mount only guide like the E13 XCX or MRP 1x. We recommend the BB mount version as they are lighter and cheaper than the seat tube mounts.
What cranks are compatible with the Tallboy? Can I use XX?
The Tallboy C will accept most any offerings from major crank manufacturers. XX cranks will fit, but make sure you order the "standard" Q-factor version (166)- not the narrow 156mm version.
Why does the Tallboy C use a standard thread-in bottom bracket, when many of your competitors use press-in style (BB30, Pressfit 30, BB90, BB92, BB86)
It is true that there are some slight weight savings available with the various pressfit bb designs (exact weight savings obviously vary depending on system, frame manufacturing techniques, and crank model), but we don't feel this small savings make up for the inconveniences. We are still able to make a frame that is lighter than most of our competitors (5.1 lbs), while still using a heavier bb system. There are a number of disadvantages that exist with press fit systems:
1) Special installation and removal tools are required for these parts, including a headset press. This is not convenient for most home mechanics, and they are quite expensive. Traditional external BB's can be installed or removed with a simple $10 hand tool.
2) "Permanently installed cups". Shimano doesn't recommend removing and re-installing their press in bb cups (as they may become damaged), so moving parts from bike to bike is no longer an option. View Tech Document
3) Creaking or shifting bb's can be common with these systems. Since the bearing is pressed into a cup, which is then pressed into the frame- it can be hard to get all of the press fits snug- without being too tight on the bearing or too loose in the frame.
4) Reasonable tube sizes. One of the most commonly claimed advantages of a larger bb shell is the larger diameter downtube that goes with it. This may be an advantage on road bikes, where tubes can be increadibly thin and large for optimal stiffness. On a mountain bike, this area of the frame sees a lot of abuse from rocks and crashing, and needs to have a certain amount of wall thickness to survive actual use. Using what we consider a "safe" wall thickness and carbon layup, and a fairly typical tube diameter, we get an exceedingly stiff, light, durable product. If we used a larger downtube, we would either have a heavier frame (same wall thickness but larger diameter), or a less durable product (thinner walls and larger diameter).
5) Chain clearance. Take a look at some of our competitors frames with press in bb shells. The down tube comes so close to the chainrings that many frames have chainsuck guards on the downtube! In our mind, the chain should be able to fall off on a mountain bike and not get jammed between your crank and thin-walled carbon downtube.
6) Backwards compatibility: Many of our customers purchase a frame and build it up with their choice of parts, or parts from an old bike. By using a standard bb, we are compatible with everything without requiring confusing adaptors.
7) Chainguide compatibility: While it may seem strange to talk about putting chainguides on a 100mm bike, it is becoming more common now with 10 speed drivetrains. Thread in bb's mean the frame is compatible with bb mount chainguides. We like versatility....
What is the torque spec for the front derailleur?
Tighten the front derailleur mounting bolt to 45 in/lbs.
What size fork should I use on the Tallboy?
The Tallboy was designed around 100-120mm forks- and will handle best in one of these configurations. However, it is strong enough to handle 140mm forks, so if you really want, you can go there.
What is the largest tire that will fit?
We never like to make promises here, as tire dimensions vary so much, but pretty much any 2.35" tire will work. The WTB 2.55 Weirwolf LT fits with plenty of room. We designed the frame with significant tire and mud clearance- the front derailleur cage is actually the thing that keeps you from putting super mondo tires on there.
What size shock is on the Tallboy?
All frame sizes use a 6.5" x 1.5" (165x38mm)shock.
Mounting hardware on both ends is 22mm wide (21.84mm to be exact), with an 8mm through hole.
What kind of front derailleur do I need?
The Tallboy requires a bottom swing (high clamp), top pull, 34.9mm front derailleur. Both SRAM and Shimano make models that work.
I would like to use a different shock on the Tallboy, can I do that?
Yes, the shock is a very common size, and there are plenty of other models on the market that will fit.
Can I use a quick release seat collar?
Absolutely. The frame takes a standard 34.9mm seat collar, so there are plenty of quick releases that will fit.
Our favorite is ours, of course. You can purchase it on our online store.
Are there water bottle mounts?
Yes. All frame sizes have two bottle mounting locations. One on top of the downtube, and another underneath for longer rides.
Custom aluminum mounting bolts are included with the frame.
What size seatpost does it use?
The Tallboy uses a 30.9mm post. Make sure it is always inserted a minimum of 100mm into the frame.
What is the largest rear brake rotor that I can use?
I'm addicted to using a Gravity Dropper/Joplin adjustable seatpost- can I use one on this bike?
We are all huge fans of adjustable seatposts, and included cable routing under the top tube for this purpose.
What kind of cranks can I use?
We use a standard 73mm bb shell, so pretty much any cranks you want will fit on there. Just make sure your crankset has a 50mm chainline, and you are good to go.
It looks like the lower link is off center in my frame- is everything ok?
Yes- this is correct. With our newer pivot system, the pivot axle draws the link over to one side in order to properly preload the bearings. This offset is accounted for in the frame design so everything ends up nice and straight in the end.
There was a packet of "friction paste" or "carbon assembly compound" included with my frame- what is this for?
Use this on your seatpost. Carbon frames have a pretty slippery inner surface that makes it difficult to get the seatpost held tight without massive tightening forces at the collar. Using the carbon assembly compound adds friction so you don't need to crank the heck out of the seat collar.
Definitely keep grease off your seatpost for the same reason.
What kind of headset will I need for my Tallboy?
This bike uses a tapered headset- which have many different configurations these days. Ours uses a standard (external) 1.5" lower cup, and a semi-integrated 1 1/8" upper. The semi-integrated upper headset is a pretty standard size these days- we use the 44mm ID standard.
As all of us frame manufacturers seem to be using slightly different configurations with tapered headtubes, these headsets are custom items. We will offer options from Chris King and Cane Creek in our kits, and also as an option with your frame purchase.
What are the rear shock options for this frame?
For 2010 we will be offering the Rockshox Monarch 3.3 and Fox RP23.