Tallboy LTc / 29er Trail / All Mountain
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We waved the carbon fiber wand at the new Tallboy LT, offering all the same features, and ended up with a frame that weighs 5.35 pounds with a shock bolted in there. That is not a typo. 135mm travel, VPP® suspension, great big wheels, 142*12mm rear axle, ISCG05 mounts, plenty of beef where it counts, and the damn thing only weighs 5.35 pounds (this is worth repeating). That's obscenely light for this type of bike. In spite of the feathery weight, this is still an aggressive all-mountain contender, and as such is stiff enough and strong enough to devour anything you throw at it without so much as a twitch.
- 29" wheels
- Light, strong, carbon fiber frame
- VPP® suspension
- 135mm travel
- 142*12 rear axle
- Dropper post friendly cable routing
- ISCG05 mount
- Grease ports, angular contact bearings
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|Frame Size||Top Tube Length*||Seat Tube Length||Head Tube Angle||Seat Tube Angle||BB Height||Wheelbase||Head Tube Length||Chainstay Length||Standover Height||Reach||Stack|
* Effective top tube
** Seat Tube length measured from center of BB to top of seat tube
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note: weights are approximate
What size fork should I use for the Tallboy LTc?
The Tallboy LT is designed around a 130-150mm fork. All of the forks we stock for the bike are 140mm.
What type of headset do I need for the Tallboy LT?
The Tallboy Lt uses a tapered heaset configuration commonly refered to as "mixed tapered". It uses a 44mm internal upper cup, and a 49mm external lower cup.
What kind of front derailleur do I need?
The Tallboy LT requires a 34.9mm bottom swing (high clamp), top pull front derailleur. Pretty much anything except Saint should work.
Can I mount a chainguide on the Tallboy LTc?
Yes, the Tallboy LTc has ISCG 05 mounts, and will accomodate most guides that use this standard. Our favorites are:
MRP Mini G SL
E13 LG1 TrWe've had difficulty mounting the E13 LG1 (non-TR) and SRS+ in the past, so best to stick with a guide from the above list.
If you want to use a dual ring guide, we've had good success with the following:
E13 TRS+ dual
What kind of bb do I need?
The Tallboy LT uses a standard 73mm threaded BB. Pretty much any crank on the market comes in a version that will fit this frame.
What size seatpost does it use?
The Tallboy LT uses a 30.9mm seatpost.
Can I run a dropper post on the Tallboy LT?
Yes, and we have included cable guides under the downtube for routing the cable/hose.
Can I mount a water bottle cage to my Tallboy LTc?
Yes, each frame has one bottle cage mount under the downtube.
What size rear hub do I need?
The Tallboy LTc uses the new 142x12 hub standard. Many high end hub and wheel manufacturers offer an option for this size now. The frame includes a DT RWS rear axle as standard.
What size rotor will fit in the Tallboy LTc?
The Tallboy LTc will accomodate up to a 203mm rear rotor. The frame uses ISO brake mounts.
What cranks are compatible? Can I use XX?
Most anything is compatible with the Tallboy LTc, including XX cranks with 156mm Q factor. Just make sure you purchase your cranks for a 73mm threaded bb.
Why does the Tallboy C use a standard thread-in bottom bracket, when many of your competitors use press-in style (BB30, Pressfit 30, BB90, BB92, BB86)
It is true that there are some slight weight savings available with the various pressfit bb designs (exact weight savings obviously vary depending on system, frame manufacturing techniques, and crank model), but we don't feel this small savings make up for the inconveniences. We are still able to make a frame that is lighter than most of our competitors (5.1 lbs), while still using a heavier bb system. There are a number of disadvantages that exist with press fit systems:
1) Special installation and removal tools are required for these parts, including a headset press. This is not convenient for most home mechanics, and they are quite expensive. Traditional external BB's can be installed or removed with a simple $10 hand tool.
2) "Permanently installed cups". Shimano doesn't recommend removing and re-installing their press in bb cups (as they may become damaged), so moving parts from bike to bike is no longer an option. http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/SI_0053A_001/SI_0053A_001_En_v1_m56577569830625426.pdf
3) Creaking or shifting bb's can be common with these systems. Since the bearing is pressed into a cup, which is then pressed into the frame- it can be hard to get all of the press fits snug- without being too tight on the bearing or too loose in the frame.
4) Reasonable tube sizes. One of the most commonly claimed advantages of a larger bb shell is the larger diameter downtube that goes with it. This may be an advantage on road bikes, where tubes can be increadibly thin and large for optimal stiffness. On a mountain bike, this area of the frame sees a lot of abuse from rocks and crashing, and needs to have a certain amount of wall thickness to survive actual use. Using what we consider a "safe" wall thickness and carbon layup, and a fairly typical tube diameter, we get an exceedingly stiff, light, durable product. If we used a larger downtube, we would either have a heavier frame (same wall thickness but larger diameter), or a less durable product (thinner walls and larger diameter).
5) Chain clearance. Take a look at some of our competitors frames with press in bb shells. The down tube comes so close to the chainrings that many frames have chainsuck guards on the downtube! In our mind, the chain should be able to fall off on a mountain bike and not get jammed between your crank and thin-walled carbon downtube.
6) Backwards compatibility: Many of our customers purchase a frame and build it up with their choice of parts, or parts from an old bike. By using a standard bb, we are compatible with everything without requiring confusing adaptors.
It looks like the lower link is off center in my frame- is everything ok?
Yes- this is correct. With our newer pivot system, the pivot axle draws the link over to one side in order to properly preload the bearings. This offset is accounted for in the frame design so everything ends up nice and straight in the end.
There was a packet of "friction paste" or "carbon assembly compound" included with my frame- what is this for?
Use this on your seatpost. Carbon frames have a pretty slippery inner surface that makes it difficult to get the seatpost held tight without massive tightening forces at the collar. Using the carbon assembly compound adds friction so you don't need to crank the heck out of the seat collar.
Definitely keep grease off your seatpost for the same reason.
What size shock does the Tallboy LT use?
The Tallboy LT uses a 7.875"x2" shock (200x51mm). The mounting hardware is 22x8mm (or 21.8x8mm if Rockshox).
What is the torque spec for the front derailleur?
Tighten the front derailleur mounting bolt to 45 in/lbs.